Houdini 20.5 crashes

Hi
i was tring houdini 20.5 and have instant crashes when i touch anything ayon related. If i delete all ayon connected nodes and recreate it again it publishes ok but if i reopen houdini project it crashes again

i dont know what i need to attach to help debugging it because it just crashes

What houdini version are you using?

Please use Houdini 20.5.370+ or if a lower version of 20.5, use their Python 3.10 builds instead of the default Python 3.11 builds. See here.

Ok thanks!) Mine version is lower so i think this is the issue